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Fat people... YOU"RE UP!

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Fat people... YOU"RE UP!

Postby Jerry on Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:45 pm

West Virginia's status as one of the most overweight states in the country has gotten even more prominent.

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A national report released today by the Trust For America's Health calls West Virginia the second most overweight state in the country, up from third place last year.


Only Mississippi has more overweight and obese adults. The study used data from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to make its calculations.

Rounding out the top five heaviest states were Alabama, Louisiana and South Carolina. The least overweight state is Colorado.

The Mountain State also ranked second, behind Washington D.C., in the rate of overweight children between the ages of 10 and 17.


The group wants to see a national strategy to combat obesity.


OK FAT ASSES! YOU CLIMBED ABOARD THAT ANTI SMOKER TRAIN, AND NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO HAVE THE SHAME SPOTLIGHT TURNED ON YOU! Hope you enjoy it as much as we have!

We tried to warn you years ago.. but OH NO..... you wouldnt listen!

Here.. take a look at the mess we're in just around here!

http://www.mywvhome.com/fat.htm

What I dont understand is... how in the hell did Mississippi beat us??
Look! We can do better! We can BEAT Mississippi!

We can be NUMBER 1! Dont give up the all-you-can-eat buffets now!
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Postby SamC on Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:32 pm

Anybody else ever notice this?

I fly quite a bit. No matter what airline you fly, getting back to the KCMWDNARA involves getting off the real airplane in Cincy, Pittsburgh, Charlote or wherever, walking to the toy airplane gates, and waiting.

I never need to read the signs to find the CRW gate. You just look for a general mixture of 300 pounders, dim-bulbs (who have never been in Morgantown in their lives on a non-Saturday) in WVU wear, and people in cowboy gear who wouldn't know a cow from cows***. All of the other gates have normal sized folks. CRW has the jumbos.

On a serious note, remember these type of stories when the fantasy-world liberals tell you about the hunger problem in America.
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Postby CarrotMan on Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:47 am

There won't be anything more then a new pill to combat this "epidemic".
"Food & Drug","Food & Drug","Food & Drug"!
The one feeds the other.
There will not be an attack on fat people, mark my words (at-least not by our government).

They couldn't get smokers to listen to the doctors, so they attacked when the people wanted them (the smokers) attacked. IE- could only tax the smokers more, not control the means and the end.
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Postby SAchick on Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:35 am

I reaize your disgust for fat people.you have made that quite clear.
what I don't understand is...you also know WV has a high percentage of smokers,that are fat people.I feel as though you want to blame all fat people for the anti smoking campaign.
As a "smok'in" fat chick,(I don't consider myself obese) all I can say is.
I still luv ya Jerry! :wink:
And thank you for not putting my fat a$$ on your big butt page. :lol:
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Postby bigJ on Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:26 pm

I feel sorry for all weak willed people.

And that is all it boils down to no matter what the topic is smokers, over-eating, drinking, etc.....

No will power.
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Postby ApewithGun on Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:10 pm

And the new state motto:

"Thank God for Mississippi" still stands.
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Postby Ivan Von Bewski on Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:37 pm

bigJ wrote:I feel sorry for all weak willed people.

And that is all it boils down to no matter what the topic is smokers, over-eating, drinking, etc.....

No will power.


weak willed? first off everyone has their vice. (let he who is without sin and such) and secondly scientist are now starting to discover that addicion is inherent in your DNA, this is the same attitude that breeds racists, discriminating one way or another is wrong. Im not even talking necessarily about fat people Im talking about addicitions in general. the physocological reasons for any of these things are quite often very deep and complex, so who are any of us to judge someone, where do we get off calling someone who is fat weak? this is simply what socialogists call conflictism.
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Postby SAchick on Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:16 pm

bigJ wrote:I feel sorry for all weak willed people.

And that is all it boils down to no matter what the topic is smokers, over-eating, drinking, etc.....

No will power.


Sometimes it takes a real strong effort to overcome will power! :P

Don't feel sorry for me. 8)



Thanks, Ivan. :)
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Postby Jerry on Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:35 pm

SAchick wrote:I reaize your disgust for fat people.you have made that quite clear.
what I don't understand is...you also know WV has a high percentage of smokers,that are fat people.I feel as though you want to blame all fat people for the anti smoking campaign.
As a "smok'in" fat chick,(I don't consider myself obese) all I can say is.
I still luv ya Jerry! :wink:
And thank you for not putting my fat a$$ on your big butt page. :lol:


Fact is, I see many less fat smokers than thin (thinner) smokers. They probably GOT fat when they quit smoking.

Fact: Most of the people in WV are FAT. That means that most of the people throwing stones at the smokers are FAT ASSES. And what do they say about people who live in glass houses? Like I've always stated: I dont care if you're 500 pounds! You enjoy your FAT and limited years due to it... and leave me the hell alone to enjoy MY bad habit.
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Postby yeti on Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:08 am

I am not addicted to food, I just eat for kicks.....I can quit anytime I want......I just don't want to right now.

I am gonna have a peanut butter and nanner samich right now....

with a glass of milk !
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Postby ApewithGun on Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:46 pm

Jerry wrote:Like I've always stated: I dont care if you're 500 pounds! You enjoy your FAT and limited years due to it... and leave me the hell alone to enjoy MY bad habit.


Oh come on Jerry....my fat butt isn't going to kill YOU but your smoking can and will kill ME.

If you don't see a difference between suicide (eating or smoking) and homicide (smoking around others) it's because you don't want to.
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Postby Jerry on Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:51 am

ApewithGun wrote:[Oh come on Jerry....my fat butt isn't going to kill YOU but your smoking can and will kill ME.


OK genius, I'm going to try to explain it to you one more time:

Let's say I'm in a Mexican restaurant bathroom that only has one toilet. Let's say that after 3 bean Burritos I've decided to make room for more. The small room is now as fragrant as a porta-potty during Regatta. YOU walk in.....

Do you....

A... Leave immedietly

B.. Stand there and breath deeply until I'm finished

C.. Call talk radio and post on message boards about how your nostrils were abused?

People like you would choose "C". People like you would walk into a business that allows smoking and BITCH about it!

The moral to this story is to stay the hell away from places that you dont like! Whether it's porn shops... casinos... cigar stores... or stinkin bathrooms!!
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Postby Ivan Von Bewski on Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:12 pm

i do agree with jerry and ape to some level..but it has nothing to do with what we think..it is the business owner's property he should do with it as he/she pleases (smoking or non-smoking) just put a sign up to state either. and then its up to the customer to decide
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Postby Jerry on Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:04 pm

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Postby Jerry on Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:37 pm

Obesity Driving Rising U.S. Health Costs

TUESDAY, Oct. 2 (HealthDay News) -- Obesity is a big factor driving soaring rates of chronic disease in the United States, with many more Americans chronically ill than their European counterparts, a new study finds.

It's an expensive problem, too: According to researchers, chronic illnesses such as diabetes and heart disease account for some $100 to $150 billion in health-care spending in the United States each year.

"The United States spends twice as much as European countries on health care," noted lead researcher Kenneth Thorpe, chairman of the department of health policy and management at Emory University's Rollins School of Public Health in Atlanta. "Seventy-five percent of what we spend in this country is associated with patients that have one or more chronic conditions and most of the growth is due to obesity."


"We have got to find more effective means to reduce, and at the worst, stabilize this persistent rise in obesity among adults and kids in this country," he said.

In addition, experts must find better and less expensive ways of managing chronic health-care problems, Thorpe said.

"That's where all the money is being spent," he said. "We are not going to control costs until we get the level and growth in chronic disease prevalence down."

The report appears in the Oct. 2 online edition of Health Affairs.

In the study, Thorpe's team compared 2004 data on the prevalence and treatment of diseases among adults aged 50 and older in the United States and Austria, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.

They report that about 17 percent of European adults are obese, compared with around a third of American adults. In addition, 53 percent of adult Americans are either former or current smokers, compared with 43 percent of those in Europe. American adults were also more likely than Europeans to have heart disease, cancer, diabetes and chronic lung disease -- all associated with obesity and/or smoking.

"The United States spends more on health care than any country in Europe," Thorpe said. In the United States, in 2004 the per capita spending on health care was $6,102 -- about twice as much as in the Netherlands and Germany, and almost twice that of France.

If the prevalence of obesity could be reduced (and along with it, chronic disease), Thorpe's team estimates that health spending could be cut by $100 billion to $150 billion per year, trimming up to 18.7 percent off the nation's total health-care budget.

There are several reasons for the costs of chronic disease in the United States, Thorpe's group notes. In addition to high rates of obesity and smoking, these include more aggressive cancer screening in the United States than in Europe, and more intensive drug treatment for chronic disease than in Europe, further driving up costs.

Thorpe believes the only way to get health-care costs under control is to find ways to reduce obesity. "There is a lack of an effective primary-care system in this country," he said. "We have to manage patients with chronic conditions more effectively, and we have got to find a way to prevent this rise in obesity."

One expert agreed with the scope of the problem, but said solutions remain elusive.

"There are two reasons why the U.S. might spend more of our total economy on health care than any other country -- treatment here costs more, and more of us need treatment," said Dr. David L. Katz, director of the Prevention Research Center at Yale University School of Medicine.

That Americans are fatter than Europeans comes as no surprise, Katz said, but that more Americans smoke is surprising. "This finding does make me question the reliability of the data to some degree. But even if we know for sure that Americans have more chronic disease risk factors than populations abroad, it doesn't necessarily tell us how to fix the problem," he said.

Obesity rates in Europe are rising fast, so "we are exporting our bad example and higher health-care costs may well follow [there]," Katz said. "Without a doubt, the high costs of health care are best reduced by the propagation of health. Defining how best to get there from here is as yet a challenge inadequately met."

Another health-care cost expert agreed.

"I'm not sure obesity is a medical condition that lends itself to medical treatment," said Greg Scandlen, the founder of Consumers for Health Care Choices, a health-care lobbying group. "Certainly, it does suggest the need for more exercise and better diets, but that is a grandmother's advice. Do we need highly trained and expensive professionals telling people what grandmothers have told them for free for generations?"

"I'm just not sure this information is of much use to the health-care system, though it may be for the education system," Scandlen said. His suggestions? "Bring back P.E. classes, [use the] transportation system, use more bicycles and fewer cars, and urban design, get rid of escalators so people will walk up stairs," he said.
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