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Thoughts about the Levy

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Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:59 am

In this mornings paper the results for the Levy were a far cry different from the results in the 2008 election when it was voted down.
Hopefully this Levy money will now be spent for road repair, the senior citizens, the Library can stay open as usual, street lights won't be turned off, etc.
As far as Street repairs are concerned, the Money that Brookhaven has donated to the Levy in the last 41 years, that I've lived here, well, last year we did get about six slabs replaced of which two were done on my Street, Fairview Dr., and the rest was done on Norwood Rd. I can now drive safely on one side of my street. These were only a few of the problems on these streets in Brookhaven. On Fairview along there are many more slabs that need replaced due to the water washing out from under the streets. It will take more than 6 slabs to correct that one problem alone. Many more slabs remain on Norwood Rd. also. These problems are getting worse with every rain. Can you imagine what they look like after this past snow. None of this includes the other strees in Brookhaven.
Then what about Bailes Dr., which is the only Street in Nitro that has a 2 in. water line. Will this problem ever get solved in our life time or will the new Fire Shed get started and the safety of our Firemen that have to put out fires on Bailes still be at risk.
I voted no for the levy and will never vote yes again until I can see our Levy money being spent for the actual reason it is meant for.
Nitro had to really work this time for a yes vote. I hope they show the Good People of Nitro that they mean to pay the bills and put the money where it belongs-- On Street Repair, keeping the Pool open for our children, for Senior Citizen projects, and keeping the Nitro lights aglow, and give Bailes Dr. the attention they need on the water lines, before they start anything new. I hope you pay these bills as quickly as you get out and pass out Donuts on the street....LOL
We all hope that Nitro will do the right things with this Levy money. Once the Good People of Nitro can see results of their hard earned money then Nitro will be able to heal and come closer together.
Last year Nitro came to Brookhaven and cut back a few trees that were across the road on Norwood Rd. I made a point to go over to City Hall and Thank them for this much needed work, but hopefully more work like this can be done in Nitro. With the trees falling everywhere in Nitro, and the power going off three times last week, I lost a micro wave and 2 TV tubes blew out. The power company said it was due to limbs falling on the lines. My street on Fairview was hit hard with power going off. Can more work like this be continually updated. Apparently not enough has been done to keep the trees away from the lines. Across the Street from my home are a couple lots that are not taken care of by the owners and the trees are over the lines now. They are young trees but ones that are leaning and will be causing future problems. Since they are now over the lines my husband can't take the responsibility for blowing more lines down.
Years ago I remember the City doing this work yearly.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby freddy on Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:57 pm

It wasn't the city that did that work (at least not for power lines). Actually LP, keeping trees away from power lines is the POWER COMPANY'S problem. Not the city's. EVEN in the city, it is up to the power company to cut trees close to the lines. The city will cut other trees that pose a problem to property. Ya can't blame that one on Nitro.
Last fall AEP sent tree cutters down Rt 25, Park Ave, on the East End and all over to cut trees. They even replace trees! If you have one in your yard that is a problem, they will take it out and plant you a new one. I know because they did two in my yard. Call them if there are trees in lines out there and they will take care of it.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:57 am

Freddie says:
It wasn't the city that did that work (at least not for power lines). Actually LP, keeping trees away from power lines is the POWER COMPANY'S problem. Not the city's. EVEN in the city, it is up to the power company to cut trees close to the lines. The city will cut other trees that pose a problem to property. Ya can't blame that one on Nitro.
Last fall AEP sent tree cutters down Rt 25, Park Ave, on the East End and all over to cut trees. They even replace trees! If you have one in your yard that is a problem, they will take it out and plant you a new one. I know because they did two in my yard. Call them if there are trees in lines out there and they will take care of it.

I say:
I beg your bardon. I talked to the Mayor about it and they were City workers that were cutting back the trees on Norwood. I couldn't even drive my Jeep up the hill without the limbs scratching my car. They were city workers doing all that work and as I said I was very proud of that work. The Mayor even told me that the people complained about the work because of them cutting back the trees. Well, if a tree is causing trouble to the power lines or people can't drive on the street without hurting an automobile than of town needs to be speaking up.
When the slid happened across from my home, it was never properly addressed. Now these trees will be causing a lot of problems. They are leaning over the road, they will endanger my home when the power lines go down. The mud from that slide has been cleaned up by my husband and I for over 35 years. The City has never run a street cleaner over any of the MUD even one time and we have shoveled and used our water to clean this street weekly all these years. Nitro should be concerned about problems like this. My husband is now 75 years old and he is not able to do this kind of work. He should have never had to have done it. I should never have had to have done it. Where is the progress and positive thinking when it comes to this situation. We have been paying Levy money all these years. Where has the help been? I still say we need to take care of what we already have before going on a spending spree. That is positive thinking.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby freddy on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:38 am

I beg your bardon.


You may beg my pardon all you wish...if they cut your trees due to power lines then they did you a kindness....it is NOT their job. Call the power company and ask them!
As to your husband cleaning the street in front of your house...I do that as well( so do many others) so don't feel like you are doing anything special. That is just being a good neighbor. I am frankly quite sick of hearing about Brookhaven, there are other things in Nitro that are much more important than Broolhaven. WHY sould the citizens of Nitro PAY for the bad planning of the developer that built that community??? You guys bought into it...YOU guys fix it.
The developer did a shoddy job on those streets and now you expect ME and others to pay to repair it, I don't think we should have to.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:07 pm

freddy wrote:
I beg your bardon.


You may beg my pardon all you wish...if they cut your trees due to power lines then they did you a kindness....it is NOT their job. Call the power company and ask them!
As to your husband cleaning the street in front of your house...I do that as well( so do many others) so don't feel like you are doing anything special. That is just being a good neighbor. I am frankly quite sick of hearing about Brookhaven, there are other things in Nitro that are much more important than Broolhaven. WHY sould the citizens of Nitro PAY for the bad planning of the developer that built that community??? You guys bought into it...YOU guys fix it.
The developer did a shoddy job on those streets and now you expect ME and others to pay to repair it, I don't think we should have to.


Laura N. Mallett says:
Well, Freddy, once again we are stuck with all talk and no action.
Brookhave is Nitro. It says so on my tax receipt. Get use to it. We are here for the duration.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby wvphoto on Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:28 pm

why is it when a levy fails.. the governing body has it over and over until it passes..

if it passes..
we never get to have it again to let it fail..

how is that fair..
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:48 am

Freddie said:
You may beg my pardon all you wish...if they cut your trees due to power lines then they did you a kindness....it is NOT their job. Call the power company and ask them!

I say: I never said they cut my trees. They cut the ones on Norwood...Pay attention

Then Freddie Says:
As to your husband cleaning the street in front of your house...I do that as well( so do many others) so don't feel like you are doing anything special. That is just being a good neighbor. I am frankly quite sick of hearing about Brookhaven, there are other things in Nitro that are much more important than Broolhaven. WHY sould the citizens of Nitro PAY for the bad planning of the developer that built that community??? You guys bought into it...YOU guys fix it.
The developer did a shoddy job on those streets and now you expect ME and others to pay to repair it, I don't think we should have to.
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I say:
Maybe to you Brookhaven isn't important but I think the approx. 189 home owners in Brookhaven that have paid the Levy for all these years and have paid Municipal Fees all these years which each are supposed to be taking care of these responsibilities and were never addressed in the first place. Right is right Dear Freddie and I don't care how sick you are of hearing about Brookhaven. You don't live over here and your attitude would be a lot different if you did. Brookhaven was not put in by one developer. It was done in sections thru the years and the section on Rockledge that was done in the 90's is the worst of all. The City of Nitro should be ashamed of themselves for letting this happen. It is the Cities responsibility and that is the bottom line. They always have an excuse for the money not being there when it is needed. This situation has nothing to do with YOU GUYS as you say. I will be driving all thru Nitro this week to take a look at how many streets look as bad as this section and I will post my results everywhere that I can and Freddie be prepared to hear more about this situation. Dear Freddie you just figure up all that money that Brookhaven has given thru the years since the early 70's to the City and when you see that figure then just show me where that money was spent and tell me why our roads are in such a desperate shape. You just drive over the streets and see for yourself. We became a part of Nitro a very short time after I moved in here in 1967 because I remember not being able to get out to see the sign because I had just had my daughter and she had to go back to the Hospital. Oh yes, I remember it all very well. I can't believe you said what you said about Nitro. I would never say something about your street like that if it happened where you live. I'd be right there to help you get your due and you owe Brookhaven an apology
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby freddy on Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:33 am

I do not owe Brookhaven an apology, some people in Brookhaven have thought for years that they were due some sort of special treatment and they are NOT. You are no more deserving than anyone else, you pay NO MORE than anyone else, you should get no mre than antone else. If you don't like the conditions in your "developement" then move. There are streets in town that are used by everyone including businesses, not just residents of a development, that need worked on FIRST.
BTW I am not your Dear. AND I have driven through Brookhaven, those roads ar NOT desperate. You make it sound like a bunch of holes one after the other and that is NOT the case. I did not lose any undercarriage parts on those roads, stop overdramatising.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:06 pm

freddy wrote:I do not owe Brookhaven an apology, some people in Brookhaven have thought for years that they were due some sort of special treatment and they are NOT. You are no more deserving than anyone else, you pay NO MORE than anyone else, you should get no mre than antone else. If you don't like the conditions in your "developement" then move. There are streets in town that are used by everyone including businesses, not just residents of a development, that need worked on FIRST.
BTW I am not your Dear. AND I have driven through Brookhaven, those roads ar NOT desperate. You make it sound like a bunch of holes one after the other and that is NOT the case. I did not lose any undercarriage parts on those roads, stop overdramatising.


I say:
It would take a lot of Special treatment to make up for the last 41 years of comments we have put up with. This must stop.

We are deserving of our share yearly.

I am here for the duration. I don't have to move. This sound like a 2 year old not a MAN.

Yes I did make a bad mistake calling you a Dear, but it was only a comment...

You need to say to all the Brookhaven people that this is overdramatising. 53 bad slabs out of 140 on on Rockledge is not being Dramatic. It is being real.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby freddy on Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:31 pm

This sound like a 2 year old not a MAN.

No, if I was not happy where I lived I would move.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:24 pm

freddy wrote:
This sound like a 2 year old not a MAN.

No, if I was not happy where I lived I would move.


Fred, your answer is no solution to the problem of all these bad slabs. Just what would Nitro do if everyone in Brookhaven moved. Nitro would be out our Levy Money, our Municipal Money and still have the roads to repair plus more bad advertizement in the papers about Nitro.
Hopefully you are not on the Nitro Council. We'd be up the Creek without a paddle with everyone moving away from Nitro...
We in Brookhaven are looking for answers not bad comments that doesn't even pertains to this Levy Subject. :wink:
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby freddy on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:25 pm

There is no more "levy subject" it was closed with a vote of YES!
Brookhaven is NOT special LP...no more deserving than anyone is. I wish the city would drop it altogether, they never should have annexed it. It provides so little revenue it's not worth the trouble it causes. It provides very little other than a few more complainers. In other words, it costs us more than it's worth! As far as people moving away...that probably wouldn't hurt much either. I have been here for over 50 years now and I liked it better then (smaller) than I do now, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit to see it downsized. So you can stop acting like Brookhaven is doing us real Nitronians a freakin favor.
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Re: Thoughts about the Levy

Postby LollyPop on Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:18 pm

freddy wrote:There is no more "levy subject" it was closed with a vote of YES!
Brookhaven is NOT special LP...no more deserving than anyone is. I wish the city would drop it altogether, they never should have annexed it. It provides so little revenue it's not worth the trouble it causes. It provides very little other than a few more complainers. In other words, it costs us more than it's worth! As far as people moving away...that probably wouldn't hurt much either. I have been here for over 50 years now and I liked it better then (smaller) than I do now, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit to see it downsized. So you can stop acting like Brookhaven is doing us real Nitronians a freakin favor.


I say,
The 2009 Budget has not yet been set. There will always be discussion on the Levy as long as there are projects and bills to be paid out of that money. Your thoughts are very dangerous for the town of Nitro with words like downsizing Nitro. The way the Town of Nitro has been spending in the past 8 years, well, if it is continued there will never be enough money to get us out of debt with or without the Levy or downsizing. I'm sure my neighbors will be interested in hearing how our section of Nitro is thought about. I'm sure our children will learn great lessons from the words you use so freely about the fact that Brookhaven is not special. Do you know how many of our young men that were raised right here in Brookhaven which is Nitro, Wesy Virginia, have honors from the Wars they have fought in to keep our Country SAFE. All the College Graduates that got there High School Education from Nitro High School, all the contributions that have been made from Brookhaven Residents, thru the Nitro Little League for all of Nitro Children for years and years alone, how they would feel with seeing what you are saying against Brookhaven. Mr. Cassell would turn over in his grave if he read your words. If you remember, he was a college professor that worked with the Council for years helping in all kinds of ways. I can go down each Street and name names that have been helpful in many ways in Nitro. Your words are now spoken and will never be forgotten, believe me. Your words will ring thru Brookhaven for a long time Little Freddie.
How you feel about Brookhaven has nothing whatsoever to do with the Levy or the Road problems. There has been NEGLECT on the roads for years. That is the BOTTOM LINE.
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